Media ID 0010-A |
NightTime Talk (8 August 1985) on Radio Pacific with Lou Sheldon and Ian Scott about the Homosexual Law Reform Bill (talkback)
Unique ID | 1105648648-76 | |||||||||||||||||||||
Speakers | Graeme Colman, Ian Scott, Lou Sheldon, talkback callers, unidentified speakers | |||||||||||||||||||||
Related media | 0010-B | |||||||||||||||||||||
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Comments | Sound quality - recorded off the radio, refer also to 0010-B | |||||||||||||||||||||
Disclaimer | This summary gives general themes as to the content of this recording. It is not a verbatim transcript. Always refer back to the original audio. This is a working document and any amendments/corrections are welcome. |
01:00 | Radio Pacific Auckland promo.. why listeners listen. |
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02:10 | Graeme Colman - background on Law Reform Bill (illegal since 1886), gay vigilantly groups, school children intimidated.. |
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05:20 | Lou Sheldon – things are going well, death threats, the lesbian who got violent at me |
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06:00 | Sheldon - Gay Power Militants taking over church, an act of war |
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07:00 | Colman – death threats |
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07:50 | Ian Scott – if you come into a country and stir you’ll get a reaction |
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09:00 | Scott – I’m happy for Mr Sheldon to speak |
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09:42 | Scott– If you set out to inflame people.. people will get upset. |
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10:42 | Sheldon – Traditional values – God, family, property.. |
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12:00 | Colman - How much are you involved in Church politics |
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13:13 | Sheldon – there’s been a misperception in the US.. church and state |
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14:00 | Sheldon - Moral decay – pornography, homosexuality, we’ve become a lobbying organisation. |
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15:20 | Sheldon – the basis for Western civilisation, man is a created creature.. the family is viewed as Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. |
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16:14 | Scott – homosexuality is not opposed to families.. my 12 year old daughter.. my parents are listening tonight, they’re supportive. Families are being invited to disown their homosexual children. |
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18:30 | Sheldon – Ian has made a conscious decision to be a homosexual. |
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19:30 | Scott – how are we going to operate here.. we’ve got another 3.5 hours.. |
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20:30 | Colman – no personal abuse tonight please |
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20:50 | Scott – we do not choose to be homosexual.. you’d have to be a bit crazy to decide to be gay. |
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22:40 | Sheldon – homosexuality is a preference, orientation, it’s a learned behaviour |
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24:00 | Caller: Dawn - support for Dr. Scott, “I’m a Christian with gay friends who aren’t anti-family”.. lies: homosexuality taught in schools, child molestation. |
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26:30 | Sheldon – the old principal of the “foot in the door” – first it’s this, then it’s that. Alternative lifestyles are being taught now in California. |
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27:30 | Caller: Dawn - heterosexuals also commit crimes. |
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28:00 | Sheldon – the intent of the Bill is one thing, the impact is another. |
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28:50 | Scott – the Bill does not put children more at risk, it does not promote homosexuality in education |
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30:30 | Caller: Joan -I’m a doctor and haven’t noticed any difference with homosexuals. How many does Sheldon know? |
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31:30 | Sheldon – I don’t have homosexual family members or friends. I have helped many to go straight |
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32:00 | Sheldon – anal intercourse – graphic description.. |
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33:00 | Caller: Joan - you’re just too dogmatic. |
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34:10 | Sheldon – homosexuality isn’t a ladies tea gathering, you’re talking about violent, erotic things.. |
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34:34 | Caller: Joan - heterosexual sex is dangerous too.. it’s just as valid a love |
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35:05 | Sheldon – They’re human beings, but it’s not normal .. Gay’s can’t emigrate to the US, armed-forces, they are a real security risk. |
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36:10 | Scott – there were a whole lot of gay soldiers.. the reason why we’re not allowed in the army is.. |
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37:00 | Sheldon - 750,000 have said No to anal intercourse |
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37:10 | Scott – if you’ve signed the petition and want to get off it write to your MP.. Joan wasn’t talking about penis/anus, sodomy |
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38:40 | Caller: James - Christian charity, Sheldon is picking on one side of society |
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40:30 | Sheldon – WE did not raise the issue of Law 142 – Sodomy .. penetration |
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41:25 | Caller: James - I believe there are many good homosexuals, we shouldn’t be signaling out one group of people. |
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42:12 | Sheldon – you started it, we’re going to finish it! |
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42:20 | Scott – this Bill is not just about sodomy. |
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44:00 | Caller: James - AIDS will take over the world. |
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44:20 | Sheldon – you’re raising the level of emotion.. this issue was raised by the homosexual community |
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45:10 | Scott – you can’t have rational discussion with people like Keith Hay.. I’ve sung with him around the piano |
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